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>> are 6:00 a.m. here in washington. look at that beautiful picture. it's a live look at manhattan a gorgeous morning there in the big apple. good morning, everyone. i'm jim acosta in case you have here, washington, i'm not there but it's great to be with you if day to have donald trump's hush money trial is anything like day one, it's gonna be a challenge, seating a jury before memorial day on monday, more than 50 perspective jurors out of a group of 96 were instantly dismissed when they admitted they couldn't be fair and impartial. the day concluding without a single juror being selected. the defense is in no hurry to wrap up this process. sources tell cnn to expect many objections and sidebars during the trial because trump's lawyers are laser focused on preserving every issue for appeal. the former president maintained largely remain largely silent. i should say, and well-behaved for much of day one. but once court recessed for the day he went on a familiar rant >> we've got a real problem with this, judge real problem with a lot of things having to

do with this trial, including the da, because you go right outside that people would make muffed in kill ago they alone and i can go to my son's graduation i can't go to the united states supreme court. this is about election interference. that's all it's about. thank you very >> now to be clear, judge. by sean has not ruled whether trump can be excused for his son's graduation. let's bring in former federal prosecutor, elliott williams, david from staff writer with the atlantic cnn political commentators. sure. michael singleton and lulu garcia-navarro of the new york times, and have cnn elliott, i is jury selection. they in a whole lot to talk about it. but oh, no, no, no contraire is ag to defer my friend, but i mean you know surprise, surprise that it was going to be hard to find an impartial jury two, i guess consider the fate of donald trump. what did you think >> a few things now, again, the way jury selection works is that you get rid of jurors who can't legally serve, who have some impediment or basis where

they just don't think they can be fair. and then both parties are able to strike a finite number of people that they just don't want. what the judge did here was pretty much by show of hands. who can't be fair to donald trump. 50 people raise their hands. any threw them out. now that judge could have kept those jurors because if he'd asked each every single one of them, you've said you can't be fair. but what if i told you what the facts and the law work could you then follow my instructions and some of them? in say, yeah, i could do that i think what the judge was doing was just getting rid of anybody who might have even been a shred of a problem recognizing that it was going to take a very long time to pick a jury and he's just getting out the chaff from the wheat and trying to bend the hurt as much as he can. >> and elliott, i mean, your legal expert here, so let me ask you this. what about the judge's decision to not play the infamous access hollywood tape for the jury, but to allow karen mcdougal to testify. i mean, that's that's interesting >> everything in criminal trials is about what happens

later, what could happen if this defendant is convicted. and there was an argument to be made that that access hollywood tape is it prejudicial against the defendant. this isn't really about access hollywood. this trial. this is about a series of transactions to cover up embarrassing conduct need to make an argument that that's not quite the same legally as the access hollywood tape what trump's lawyers could do down the road is say that bike playing the access hollywood it would tape in court, it gotten the jury's heads. it confuse them about these hush money payments and really just made donald trump's seem like a rotten guy that they should have convicted only did get elected even though the access hollywood tape came out. so there is that, but lulu idea, the thing is the new york times, maggie haberman was in that room and reports. we've put this on on screen, trump quote, appeared to nod off a few times. his mouth going slack in his head drooping onto his chest. the former president's lead lawyer, todd blanche, past him notes for several minutes before mr.

trump appeared to jolt awake and notice them. cnn's own reporting, we should note is that trump had his eyes closed for several minutes while leaning back in his chair >> i >> you know, what's your sense of this? so if my question is not making you not off, yeah >> sorry. where am i >> it's early what i would say, first of all, he's old and old men take naps. it was a long proceeding. and so that i would just say in his in his in his defense. >> the other thing >> i would say is this. what is so interesting about this trial? and i think was a mistake strategically, is that it is not on television. and so we are relying on the fantastic maggie haberman and others who are in the courtroom to tell us this. but did you see what the defense actually did? trump's people actually did. they denied it. they said it did not happen, and that it was lies. and so at this point, it's not but it's not only donald trump who's on trial. it is actually, again, as with everything to do with donald trump reality and truth itself.

and there will be a segment of the population who simply do not believe that he nodded off if this had happened on television and you were all playing that tape, it might have had an impact of the way that people perceive this trial. but instead, it is going to again be filtered through the partisan lens. >> and moreover, he is the former president, has this tendency to take a fact that's based in some truth, legally or whatever else and spin it do an absolute y and every single one of these small rulings that he wins, he can come out that afternoon. we won winning this whole trial. can you understand why we're no one understands why we're even here. >> there are some trumpy and silliness going on here they're going to go after sleepy joe. you nods often court what's the point of saying he did not offer while the silliness is this claim about high school graduations. there are internet sloughs who have pointed out the dahman trump has never attended any of his previous children's high school graduation. one of the follow-up questions would be the son who's graduation, you'd like to attend, what is his name, please? because trump often seems to be unaware of the son's name but there's a

more serious point here, donald trump is talking about his presence in the courtroom as if it's a burden to him, as if it's an imposition. the reason he is there is not because he's being inconvenience. he's there because it's a right to be in court. it's a right guaranteed by the sixth amendment. and the reason it's compulsory is because american judicial precedent says this right is so precious that except in the most extraordinary circumstances, it cannot be waived even by the right himself or herself. you you must be there because it must be seen by all that you have had the opportunity to be confronted, to confront your accusers, to hear the charges in open court, to see that due process is done. now, the fact that the right is so precious doesn't and cannot be wade voluntarily doesn't mean it cannot be forfeited by bad behavior. and i quoted on twitter this morning a precedent from 1970 were euo black said, look facing a confirmations, defendant. courts have three alternatives. one is to bind and gag him. that is not recommended but the

other two bars are contempt charges and also that he could be temporarily removed if he behaves very, very badly. >> where does the day conformations >> i mean, that's better than fixed news. i worked on that. >> one of the sleep >> my god. i didn't want to go to you because i mean, this notion that we can't find an important soldier. it's donald trump, >> who is there >> anybody on planet earth who has impartial about donald trump? >> i just don't see how that's possible. yeah. >> i mean, i think that there are a plethora of people who've already made their minds up not only about this case, but the other three cases they either believe he's guilty and he shouldn't run for president. there are some folks who believe he's guilty and it doesn't as a matter, they're going to vote for him anyway. but this idea that there are some folks that sliver of people in the middle who've never heard of donald trump, who never thought about his bad behavior. i think that's almost impossible. we also have to keep in mind here people in new york have known trump way beyond before he got into positive four, we ever ran before he became president. and so they may have views about

him going when all the way back there. >> i mean, this thing, is it a partial or fair and i think time people i don't think you can find people that are fair. >> why don't i don't agree with that >> standard. hundreds of years of american law says that what needs to be fair, not impartial, but the mere fact is if someone comes into court with a prior opinion about a defendant, if they can say upon questioning from the judge, i can set aside my personal views and regard the facts and the law in a manner in accord with american law that is a perfectly fine and fair juror but i would just say quickly >> though, from a political perspective, when people look at a place like manhattan that almost voted at he precedent for president biden. it's almost impossible for people to the average person to presume is going to be fair. the same thing would be if this was president biden, you were to take him to kansas and a place that when 80% for donald trump people say, well, how could the president get a fair jim's point that in the united states we have a constitutional system

that says it, where you commit your credit crimes, you ought to be prosecuted. and ron, o.j. simpson any of these people will get fair trials based on the jurisdictions that they're in. and i think this idea that you have to treat a particular politician with kid gloves just because is a popular politician is nonsense that would upset our entire legal system. and i think it's just really doing dangerous to start saying that the merely because someone is a very popular republican, that they somehow quickly, it's no different than a person of color on the front, all white jury. is there a way that many here am i likely going to get a fair trial? most people of color are probably say i'm not exactly top, but then whatever, just doesn't exact same responses at the constitution built in a number of protections against a result. the many things that is has never had a provision that said democrats versus republicans ought to be tried certain ways in court. and the simple fact is, you don't have a constitutional protection to be to go to trial against with jurors, only of your political party and across american

history, democrats have been prosecuted in blue jurisdictions republicans and red ones. it's a question of, can the individual jurors, each one to a answer fairly and honestly that they can be fair and trial and living in a small town like dc, i've had the experience of serving on juries many times, which is unusual, but they're very few people and you see who can't figure out how to get off jury duty. and i'm one of them so i don't know probably four or five i am always struck by how well the process works. however skeptical you are as both a journalist and a juror at the beginning it's kinda small miracle that happens in those courtroom. >> have goodwill. i mean, people do want to do their best for what is actually one of the foundations of our democracy and our legal system. and so i think it's very dangerous actually to start putting this idea that somehow if you lean one way or another, that some how you cannot put that aside for the greater jurisdictions.

i've seen i've seen i've seen people work through all kinds of i'm not be the big prejudices, but minor prejudices, minor assumptions, minor biases, minor habits of thought, and you would see the human, the human group of six or 12 working through this thanks and it's a very impressive thing. and if donald trump, as among his many legacies of damage, leaves americans with the view that they can't trust juries. that's one more harm. he's done, but i think it goes the divisions in the country in my opinion, would dictate that you would want a larger voter or jury pool john just manhattan is my point. >> so for that >> skeptical of trump voter who's listening to the former president is saying, wait a minute here. this is in an area that's automatically against me because of their ideological bend. what made a minute, mr. president, we're pulling people from all over the mic is going to come after you come after you. i mean, i what i'm saying is i just don't think that that's fair. i think looking at people's voting habits and

then saying like, somehow someone can't get a fair trial there. it really is setting this country. >> i hear you, but i'm telling you when you talk to those republican voters who support the former president, which was at almost 80 million americans. they don't see it that well. so you're saying that in miami trump trial in miami, because it is leaning are leaning republican state. he's gonna get a fair trial, i think. is that the look of voters who support trump, not my opinion. i think those borders would say, yeah, we think the former president would get a fair trial there. when i talk to those voters, that's what i hear. costs. yeah. i think they'll get a fit. i think it gets fair trial where he's got friendly voters. i think if they don't like it, they ought to get two-thirds of the states amend the constitution and challenge our entire legal system. i'm just very worried can't be very worried though that there's a sizable was sort of the country that's going to see that's an a very negative way and that division, i don't think we need yeah. >> all right. guys, i doubt anybody at home nodding off after keep it up, keep it up, guys. thanks a lot. are coming

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law. that law which makes it a crime to obstruct clark two and official proceeding has been used by prosecutors and over 300 january 6 cases since 2021, the court's ruling is likely to come down in june and could upend the cases of hundreds of those defendants. and while president trump is not party to this case, ruling has the potential to knock out a number of federal charges that he is facing for plotting to subvert the 20 2020 election. my panels back with me now, elliott, explain yes, and it does it imperil jack smith's case. do you think against donald trump? probably not against others, quite possibly. so, as you said obstruction of an official proceeding sounds pretty clear on its face. now, this was put in place as almost a financial crimes law get to. go under sarbanes-oxley. folks have maybe heard that. that old piece of legislation. now the question is, when you obstruct influence or impede an official proceeding, what does that mean? now initially the law was used to go after accountants and other people who obstruct

proceedings through what are called curves corrupt means lying, deceit, fraud, trickery. the question is can that be applied to a violent act like january 6? now, it's still an obstruction of an official proceeding, but maybe not in the way that the law was originally written. those supreme court is going to be looking into number one, what was congress thinking at the time? and number two, what are the words? the statute actually say a few corruptly impede a proceeding, whether you're breaking down a window or whether you're an accountant filing papers in a bad way, can you still be convicted? and so it's really this legal lipstick twisting are trying to parse language, right? yeah. >> could this potentially pull the thread on? the jack smith case? do you think that it's trump won? it also could cast a light on missing element from many jen six cases, which is many of the protesters came in buses that the protesters themselves did not pay for so we often talk with january 6 as if it were an impetuous act, as

if this spontaneous eruption of crowd feeling two questions, why were there so many buses laid onto bring people there and so if you want to go into questions of corruption, that the premise behind the opposition to this statute is that while they were just acting in the heat of the moment, but in fact, it does look corrupt. someone paid for those buses with a pretty good idea. what the, people on the buses would do, would just try to overturn an election and by force and fraud make the loser of the election somehow the president. >> and i want to an important point >> even imagine the supreme court were to say 15, 12, c2, that's the law cannot apply to january 6. protesters remember any number of these people can still be charged under property destruction, trespass, other sorts of violent crimes, all the crimes that you've seen prosecuted already under state and federal law. it's not that this is throwing away all january 6 is just a small subset of these obstruction of official proceedings for some of the gov, very important. >> our guys, we talk so much

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you, but israel is making a pretty clear that they're going to do something. >> they are and pat ryder also said in almost the same breath that we are keeping our us military assets that we deployed in anticipation of these rania strikes out there. and that's the clearest sign that the us doesn't think that this is over, and that an, a potential iranian reaction to whatever maybe coming from israel could then threaten us troops but it is clear that the us hopes that for the moment that this is over, that as we've been told that israel takes the when israel certainly has support domestically to do something against iran this is just a stunning hours-long attack some 500 projectiles being fired at israel. but as a senior administration official told me yesterday the us sees this is kind of the equilibrium being re-established. you had the israeli strike against the

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dismissed monday because they said they could not be impartial and fair. trump has also made an unusual request to be part of the sidebars, either approaching the judge's bench or meeting with him in a side room, seen as brynn gingras is live outside the courthouse with more there were some surprises yesterday brynn, i suppose there might be some more today. >> yeah. i mean, jim, no one thought that this was going to be easy and obviously jury selection is proving to be a tall order with just one day into it. as you just said, 50 people were dismissed because they said they couldn't be impartial or fair out of the first 96 batch of jurors that went into the courtroom as it stands this morning, there are 32 that are left in the courtroom still going through that 42 questionnaire, trying to figure out if there are people who can sit on this jury, no one has been selected yet. and again, some of those questions that they're being asked are what is their background? where did they get their news from one person said that they had strong opinions about trump one person said

that they don't believe a president a past, present, or even a janitor as above the law. so there's a lot of questions that are going through this to weed out this process, but it is expected to take quite a bit and we do pick up jury selection when court resumes today at 9:30, judge, saying he wants everyone their nine 30 sharp today? jim >> all right. brand jin grass. thank you very much. show while donald trump sits in a manhattan courtroom, president biden is heading to the battleground state of pennsylvania. they'll start the campaign swing with a speech in his hometown of scranton, his message to voters, donald trump is out of touch my panel is back and david, i mean, let's talk about the split-screen a little bit. today. i mean, i guess it's sort of a media crushing talk about it in that sense, but that is what we're gonna be seeing today. trump's in court, biden on the campaign trail talking about issues. >> its let's make it even more dramatic next >> week, because next week we're back in another courtroom where the new york attorney general will be arguing that the bond trump put up to cover his liability in the fraud case that he lost those. 454 million and rising

dollars, he put up a bond for 175 million and it turns out, that seen in dumb and dumber where they say this is better than cash. those are ir, ious that bond looks very shaky and may be entirely fictitious name next week there's going to be hearing on it. and if a judge shares of judge engoron says this bond isn't worth the paper, it's printed on then the attorney general can begin to move against trump's assets, and that makes for an even more dramatic splits rain in the bottom half of april and the beginning of may? yeah. i mean, she would monopoly money play with monopoly >> yeah, absolutely. canadian prior money >> some viewers will get and others won't yeah, i mean, let's talk about this, guys, lulu for michael. i mean sure. michael, how much of this do you think we're gonna be seeing over the course of the next several months. i mean, if it takes this long to seat a jury, that means that this manhattan trial this alvin bragg case, may take some time and that gives more time for joe biden to be out there on the campaign. paint drill talking about issues he's today's we'll

be talking about tax policy while trump has stuck at the courthouse. >> it's interesting. i mean, i've been critical of the president for some of the issues that i think he hasn't done very well on in the eyes of many americans, but i will say that i think the reelect campaign, they have been very smart to focus on some very key battleground states. he's been wisconsin, they're focusing on pennsylvania from some conversations i've had with friends of mine who are part of the campaign. the president plans to go back to arizona and nevada again. so i think that they recognize that this is going to be a battleground state election this november jim, as oh, my differences aside have with president biden, i think is very, very smart for the president to go to these states. talk about the economy, talk about some of the issues that he believes he's accomplished for the american people while president trump has to do with the legal, he is facing, a lot of challenges in these battleground state holders polls are showing that actually he's behind underwater and all except one of them. and so tighten a little bit there are tightening a little bit absolutely. but

it's do or die. he's comfortable in pennsylvania. let's not forget, he grew up in scranton. this is his this is where he likes to be. this is where he feels comfortable, but there's been a lot of emphasis that he needs to get out in places that perhaps he might not feel so comfortable rural parts of the state and other parts where they might not be so friendly to his message because he needs to push beyond the suburbs. he needs to push beyond the city. he really needs to try and persuade voters that he's the person david, i mean, the president has been a bit reluctant to go after trump on these legal issues trump likes to talk about these biden trials and so on. and it sounds as though the president has sort of pulled back a little bit, not really wanting to engage should he though? i mean, there's a debate. it seems inside biden world, should the president go after trump on these trials and say, listen, you know, he should be hammered for this. i think

it's possible to hold in mind the idea that an election is will be important for one reason from the point of view of 100 years from now, and the election will be decided for different reason today so when they teach this election in, he asked me box a century from now, the issue on the ballot will be the preservation of the american constitution. yes or no. can a violent coup d'etat be permitted? yes or no? >> but the election will >> actually be decided on the issues of prices and abortion and that especially down the ballot. what happens the house of representatives, it's there project to surveil and police and harass american women? that's why they're going to lose arizona in my opinion. but that's not the president doesn't have to talk about that even though in his longer-range mind, he may know that's what this election is ultimately going to be about when we remember it will remember did the constitution get over? do we permit violent khuza'a would we stop them? >> i think one of the questions for me though which i think you're getting at actually is this idea of what kind of role is biden supposed to be playing here in this election? is he supposed to be highlighting all

the foibles that trump is committing that he is facing all this legal jeopardy, that he is sitting in a courtroom all right. guys, out there campaigning or and/or is he really supposed to just take a step back, say, i'm the president, i'm above this. whatever donald trump is doing, let that speak for itself, and i'm going to take my message to the american people that i think is the real divide here. >> and i >> and many people we'll do believe that really biden needs to take a more forceful stand to highlight what, what, what's happening >> look, i'm not a democrat, but if i were advising the president, that's what i would advise. i was look, we need to make a clear distinction between who we are, what we represent, what our stances are on whole host of issues compared to the alternative. and i would argue, i don't i think the president is doing that effectively. i understand probably not wanting to because i guess you don't want the during the 2016 campaign. i mean, ever since any democrat that trump is up against, he

calls them crooked. he goes after them and all these things. and i'm just kind of wondering at what point does a democrat say? wait a minute, who's the cricket >> a lot of people who voted to reelect president lincoln in 18, 64 because the issue for them was the control of the post office in their town >> and all six is local. >> those votes count just as much as the people who voted to save the union and end slavery. and the result of the election was who remembers now, the post office. but we all remember what they did, not why they did it. >> so this one flexion will be about abortion prices and the strong performance of the american economy >> wages are saying that biden shouldn't then talk about trump and his legal cases. initially, justice, abortion, his campaign in each place should talk about what the voters in that place, what localized care, what care about, and then he should leave the verdict the consequence meaning of this section to history, because the things that i care about, i care, i'm gonna be voting because of the constitution and ukraine. but i think that's going to be quite anomalous set of motives >> and i wouldn't i

>> but vote to protect your abortion, right? vote to the president because your wages went up. but the result 100 years now will be saved when we say the constitution of biden is also, i'm not the other guy. and you have to show who the other guy is in order for that to be a motivating factor for voters. i mean, this has been a central tenant of what biden's been trying, but i do think you have to make that distinction. but also i do agree somewhat with david. are those kitchen table issues you have the mega compelling and a forceful argument that you have done a great job and we'll do an even better job to improve the daily lives of people. and i'm not sure that president biden has really successfully accomplished that. >> is it a good idea for the president to talk about the economy when i mean, it seems like people are looking past where the stock market is, where they're four or one k's are right now with the unemployment rate there's that wages are going up and they're just they're focused on gas prices. they're stubborn, stubborn inflation. that is just sort of hanging in there as a liability for the president. >> it is a huge liability and i

think a part of it, we can blame some of the corporations that are making a whole lot of money now this isn't typically a conservative position to take, but if i were the president, i would take a hammer to those corporations and i would say your gas prices, grocery store, everyday goods are all up because these guys are proud, gouging and they only care about their bottom line and making more money and if you elect me again for another four years, we're going to go after them to make it fair for the average person. i wasn't it isn't doing that against the prices of groceries and gasoline go down as they've done over the past let's do your and-a-half. is that because the corporations lap around five, 6% though >> but if i don't understand why corporations are sometimes greedy and sometimes generous, sometimes they raise prices, sometimes lead corporations act did one thing here on self-interest. you mean because they act in response to market signals? >> but one thing the president is going to talk about today is tax policy. and they feel like this is a salient issue inside the white house. are you have a lot of guys at the top who just because of the trump tax cuts have not been paying, they feel

they have not been paying their fair share. >> no one likes rich people. i don't have a problem that rich people as conservative as capitalists make all the money you can. but if i were a democrat, i know that that's a salient point for a whole host of people born after the wealthy, you're not going to get a lot of people to push back against that >> yeah, i do wonder though if this is actually an issue that is going to motivate voters, and i'll tell you why. i mean and it's referencing our previous conversation about the partisan hats that people have on, which is there was. an incredible report out of pennsylvania from one of the local papers. there that they went to a trump rally and you had union workers talking about how trump was their guy. and this was >> asked merchan to save this >> you know, yeah. good with union workers, went out with them, but there is this sense that if people want and like donald trump that is who they're despite all the evidence despite, you what we know, that that's the guy. and so i do think it's going to be hard for that to be a motivating trump has never want a popular vote ever. he has

never been about 50% in any respectable pole ever. he is an unpopular candidate editor time of economic prosperity at the head of a party that wants to police and surveil and why they wanted david while they want to blow up nato and overturn the constitution by violence. i think that's a compelling message. >> and we'll hear the president talk about that guys. thanks. as always, appreciate the conversation coming up. maryland democratic congressman glen ivy is here to talk about aid for israel and more and the lighting of the olympic torch that happened earlier this morning, kicking off a global journey going to paris and the count down to the summer games will show that you can just few moments >> you open your mailbox and see the envelope from your health insurance company. you hold your breath >> will they pay for your child's treatment this time? he will open the letter and find that you've been denied again, a month later, another letter arrives. you've premiums are going up again. they are banking record profits

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night >> there precipitating events around the globe that we're all watching very carefully and we know that the world is watching us to see how we react. i think the final product will be something that everybody can take confidence in because they got to, they got to vote their district and vote their conscience. i do expect that this will be done this week and we'll be able to leave knowing that we've done our job here and joining me now is democratic congressman glenn. i have you have barrel and he's a member of the house homeland security and judiciary committees congressman, i guess first of all, what is your sense of this plan that the speaker has hatched to sort of pass these things separately now, before it was all wrapped together and one big package to see if everybody could swallow it all at once. that's not going to happen anymore. it looks like, well, he keeps trying to do >> these gimmicks and they keep falling apart on him in on the house floor. i think it just makes a lot of sense just to move all of it together. since that would actually save time

because you'd send back a bill to the senate that's ready to go and the white house's already announced sit there, going to move to block if you have separate bills and we tried this once before and we voted down the israel solo package. so i'm not sure why it's doing this let's just move them all together and get it done. >> so you would be your preference to bundle them back together and pass them in one big package. if it comes out as one at a time and individual bill on israel, ukraine, taiwan. so how do you vote? if i may? >> well, those are, those are all aid packages that i want. i would include aid to gaza as well. humanitarian aid to ukraine. but last time around the concern was that they would just move they being the house republican leadership, one bill and then install the others. ukraine in particular. so rather than do that, we'd like to see all of them move together. i think the house democrats will have to wait to make a decision. in fact, we

need two more this morning at nine to think it through, but and hope i haven't seen a so any kind of written guidance on what the speaker has in mind either. so we'll have to sort that through this morning and a name you've heard of before, marjorie taylor greene, apparently she is still threatening to oust mike johnson over this aid to ukraine. what is your sense of this? i read you take this stuff seriously. do you think that this is just all performative? is there a possibility that we could see the speaker tossed overboard and you guys might have to come in and bail them out or potentially move toward us. speaker hakeem jeffries. i mean, what what are some of the scenarios that you're running through? >> well, it certainly performative on marjorie taylor greene's part and whether or not he's actually going to be ousted. i think that's unlikely at this point but the bottom line will be, one of the democrats do. and hopefully unlike speaker mccarthy, speaker johnson will reach out to hakeem jeffries and have conversations about what we can do to move forward jointly. and that will probably involve the bills that you just mentioned, as well as some other aspects

moving forward. >> and i mean, are democrats i did talk to one democratic congressman last week who said, you know what, if speaker johnson can get us aid to ukraine, okay. maybe we might help him out a little bit if it gets if the going gets tough, what's your sense of it? >> well,his has been t least productive cgress may be ihistory so far. so som productionould be importt. >> and these bail amount i ul'necessily oppose thati real, real would depe on wh he decides to do with respect to dealing with hakeem jeffries, even speaker mccarthy, i think we didn't make a decision to vote them on some in that he'd done overhat weekend. otherwise, he could still be eaker, but i think we'll have to see but johnson proposes and whether negotiations with hakeem are going to be and how we move forward on the packa we just scussed in particular. all right. a lot to unpack untangle, it's going to be interesting to watch. you'll be in t middle of a cgressman. anks for beingith his thanks for habeas you, sir. >> all right. coming up is

>> 53 minutes past the hour. here's your morning roundup pro palate i'll send you demonstrations in cities across america on monday from seattle and oakland to miami and new york, more than 150 people were arrested as protesters disrupted the traffic on roads and bridges. take a look at this >> torch now on its way to paris for the summer games blamed lit. the sporting and southern greece where the olympic games warn and seven, bc >> the indiana fever select caitlin clark and basketball phenom. caitlin clark, you've heard of her. she is headed to indiana african picked number one in the wnba draft ticket prices to watch the field for this season, more than doubled after clark announced she was entering the draft amazing stuff can wait to see that. in the meantime, the justice

department is setting his sights on the biggest name in concert promotion and ticketing the wall street journal citing people familiar with the matter reports the agency is planning to file an antitrust lawsuit against ticket masters parent company live nation in the coming weeks, cnn has reached out to the department of justice and live nation. and as we reported, the company has come under some intense scrutiny after the taylor swift concert ticket fiasco back in 2022, you may have heard of that. it left millions of fans unable to buy tickets are empty handed. if they did fueling questions from critics and lawmakers about anticompetitive practices and exorbitant ticket prices and prompting an apology from the company's president and cfo during a senate judiciary hearing months later we knew bots would attack that on sale and plan accordingly. we were then hit with three times the amount of bot traffic that we'd ever experienced. this is what led to a terrible consumer experience. we deeply regret we apologize to the fans we apologize to ms swept we

need to do better and we will do bad you are joining us now, cnn senior media analyst and senior media reporter for axios, sara fischer, back with us, david from >> chel michael singleton, and lulu garcia-navarro >> sarah, what >> is your sense of this case? i mean, it sounds like the justice department is going to go after live nation and i can speak on half of myself and i think a lot of other people who go to concerts and sporting events people are tired of paying for these crazy fees on these tickets are getting exorbitant, right? >> thousands of dollars. so we've had a source close to the matter, also confirmed to us at the doj's preparing a suit. what's unclear is exactly when it's going to happen. if it's next month, it's in the next few months. >> the big thing here is that live nation acquired ticketmaster in 2010 and the doj declined to block it. so now you're looking over a decade later at these anticompetitive practices. and i think the regulators are saying, should we have blocked it, then is there something we need to revisit now that's why

they're doing an investigation. >> yeah. and i guess one of the world's of the story here is don't mess with the swifties, don't mess with the swifties, right? like i think one of the reasons that there's so much attention to this issue is definitely because of the taylor swift fiasco in 2022. you'll recall in january 2023, the issue went to capitol hill, where senators debated over this. they all got their 15 minutes of fame by quoting taylor swift lyrics. but it did prompt a lot of regularly tori response. and so to your point, jim, the big conclusion here if you're going to take on a massive torre like the arrows torrent, taylor swift and mess it up better watch your back. >> you're going to pay the consequences and lulu, i mean, this kinda reminds me of the conversation we were just having in the previous segment about what people care about the bread and butter economic issues. and this is one of those things >> i will talk about during the break. got people credit card going quite crazy with their credit cards in this economy and so on >> i mean, the, >> the fees that they put on these tickets, it's got everybody fired up right now. >> i mean, it's crazy as a consumer, as someone who just took their daughter to a

concert. her first concert, and the sticker price on that was absolutely shocking. and i do think it hits everyone because we all want to be able to enjoy live music, right? we all want to go to these concerts. we all want to have these communal experiences. but to go and do that at now it's just like so hard to even get the tickets to then pay all these fees. and i think people do rightly blame these companies for that because frankly, it is a kind of monopoly. >> it feels like a monopoly. i mean, i took my kids to march madness and it was like, what am i good 80 bucks in fees per ticket. and i'm thinking to myself what where are these fees going? i mean, i just clicked on a button. it's also wanted to understand this is a thing that consumer menn, i want to hear it, that money is being taken. the value is being taken as much from the team or the artist. and that's why this monopoly. so sinister. >> think of >> how this world would be different if march college basketball could say, well, we're considering you live

nation are you ticketmaster one or the other? cut us the right kind of deal. because if people are willing to pay at extra dollars, why don't we take 40 and let the consumer have 30 and you take ten. but because there's only one platform and it's weird in a world in which no one knows to watch the movies because they not 97 streaming services. the idea that these two platforms were allowed to consolidate to one and to take value from the provider as well as the consumer. that strange, it was a huge >> mistake in 2010, it was a huge mistake in 2010 that they didn't actually merger happen when this merger happened, that they didn't actually try and stop it. and i think actually in this case, the biden administration and its justice department has been taking a much tougher line on some of these for luck competition breeds fair prices for the consumer. and i think there's a reason that doj is now really looking at this as a way to many here. this, but this is not competition at all. this price gouging out, it's worth at the end of the day, schult mask, but also there's going to potentially be a new